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  1. https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/sports/2019/05/sad-but-necessary-changes-could-be-coming-to-piaa-wrestling-weight-classes.html Article out of PA says it would go into effect for the 2020-2021 season. So we got a ways to go it looks like.
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    Realignment proposal passes

    https://ed.sc.gov/data/other/student-counts/active-student-headcounts/
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    Realignment proposal passes

    Here is the best I can figure 3A would look like. Remember though these classifications are in keeping with the notion that the SCHSL would keep 48 schools in 5A, 40 schools in 4A and 44 schools in 3A. The initial proposal that I saw had something like 43 schools in each. So 43 in 5A, 43 in 4A ad 43 in 3A. All of that remains to be seen it sounds however. B C Sr High 332 264 180 776 Orngb Wilkinson High 321 276 173 770 Seneca High 281 262 222 765 Marlboro County High 285 240 238 763 Camden High 269 230 258 757 Georgetown High 289 212 255 756 Palmetto High 281 250 212 743 Hanahan High 237 249 255 741 Dillon High School 273 225 202 700 Chapman High 248 255 194 697 Waccamaw High 237 209 244 690 Swansea High 249 247 190 686 Powdersville High 219 244 218 681 Broome High 241 233 197 671 Clinton High 265 254 148 667 Chester Sr High 278 214 172 664 Lake City High 282 211 167 660 Pendleton High 239 225 186 650 Carolina Academy (High) 298 194 157 649 Emerald High 243 214 190 647 Aynor High 223 227 192 642 Loris High 233 188 218 639 Manning High 203 239 196 638 Strom Thurmond High 211 204 205 620 Southside High 303 160 145 608 West-Oak High 194 222 183 599 Battery Creek High 220 193 180 593 Keenan High 266 169 150 585 Woodruff High 210 189 178 577 Fairfield Central High 214 181 176 571 Lake Marion High & Tech Ctr 253 156 152 561 Crescent High 193 171 195 559 Mid Carolina High 191 212 152 555 Newberry High 196 175 178 549 N Charleston High 255 160 130 545 Marion High 198 160 170 528 Columbia High 217 160 144 521 Silver Bluff High 196 178 140 514 Woodland High 176 161 175 512 Pelion High 198 169 139 506 Academic Magnet High 168 167 169 504 Chesnee High 172 192 134 498 Liberty High 215 135 147 497 Edisto High 184 164 138 486
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    Realignment proposal passes

    Only Avg, IMO quite the contrary. 4A could lose Eastside but gain Chapin back along with gaining Indian Land and Gilbert. Essentially losing 1 DOMINANT program and replacing it with 3 VERY good / competitive teams. Westwood High 463 371 339 1173 York Comprehensive High 416 386 366 1168 Greenville Sr High Academy 459 372 334 1165 South Pointe High 439 369 346 1154 N Myrtle Beach High 404 384 359 1147 Myrtle Beach High 428 381 336 1145 Laurens Dist 55 High 453 366 321 1140 Chapin High 411 384 340 1135 North Augusta High 390 393 348 1131 Richland Northeast High 440 371 311 1122 South Aiken High 401 374 341 1116 A. C. Flora High 407 356 341 1104 May River High 373 358 343 1074 Aiken High 422 285 353 1060 Midland Valley High 395 341 316 1052 Airport High 407 343 295 1045 Hilton Head Is. High 378 348 308 1034 Beaufort High 386 334 299 1019 Pickens High 356 331 316 1003 Irmo High 333 320 340 993 Bluffton High 374 316 271 961 Wilson High 334 362 253 949 Hartsville High 375 274 298 947 Indian Land High 364 295 275 934 Lancaster High 345 295 293 933 Travelers Rest High 373 312 243 928 Dreher High 359 280 282 921 Lower Richland High 373 272 273 918 Greer High 353 283 258 894 Darlington High 329 309 238 876 Berea High 345 255 268 868 Walhalla High 326 290 251 867 D W Daniel High 317 291 258 866 Crestwood High 330 287 240 857 Union County High 332 270 253 855 Belton Honea Path High 301 279 266 846 Gilbert High 325 254 237 816 Blue Ridge High 258 287 263 808 Lakewood High 287 267 243 797 Wren High 271 262 259 792
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    Realignment proposal passes

    https://www.heraldonline.com/sports/high-school/article218653850.html Will be interesting to see the impact the new Catawba Ridge High School in Fort Mill has on Fort MIll and Nation Ford high schools. Article says the school will open with grades 9-11. The HSL said in the article the new school would be in region 3-4A BUT with these new realignment developments what will happen to the 9-11 enrollments for Fort Mill and Nation Ford remains to be seen. Would all 3 schools now be in 4A??? https://www.moultrienews.com/news/bengals-will-be-beckham-high-s-official-mascot/article_28c8d4b6-5f62-11e8-b4f3-cf33c047ab1f.html Lucy Beckham High School is set to open in August 2020 essentially taking kids away from the largest school in the state Wando. Not that that will make Wando a 4A school by any means but it does add another a variable to the equation. https://abcnews4.com/news/education-news/hundreds-will-go-to-stratford-instead-of-cane-bay-after-bcsd-redraws-lines There is also rezoning taking place currently in Berkeley County in regards to Cane Bay and Stratford. Both schools are large enough not to have any classification impact it seems. https://www.wyff4.com/article/the-gcs-facilities-most-requested-for-reassignment-through-lottery/26239157 Eastside High School this past winter received the greatest number of "assignment changes" for any high school in the GCSD. 216 assignment requests in total. How many of those are already attending Eastside from outside their geocode it does not indicate. Does not necessarily mean 216 NEW assignment requests. But come October 2019 Eastside could be in the mix to be a 5A school.
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    Realignment proposal passes

    Under the new realignment formula here is what 5A MIGHT look like for the 2020-22 cycle. Bare in mind this is using the 45 day count in October, 2018. IF the SCHSL still decides to use the top 48 schools to make up 5A. Currently 5A is at 48 schools and 4A is at 40 schools. See what happens in October, 2019 I guess. School 9 10 11 Wando High 1,057 1,001 912 2970 Dorman High 875 945 777 2,597 Summerville High 930 768 672 2,370 Carolina Forest High 762 684 560 2006 James F Byrnes High 653 635 600 1888 Ft Mill High 643 606 586 1835 Mauldin High 630 618 567 1815 Clover High 651 623 534 1808 Sumter High 697 629 459 1785 Boiling Springs High 599 626 553 1778 Ashley Ridge High 647 577 540 1764 Fort Dorchester High 634 574 537 1745 Nation Ford High 604 600 513 1717 Hillcrest High 633 570 483 1686 Spring Valley High 608 475 572 1655 Cane Bay High 575 566 513 1654 Lexington High 612 517 471 1600 Rock Hill High 577 503 511 1591 Spartanburg High 551 521 497 1569 J L Mann High Academy 529 582 455 1566 River Bluff High 553 580 420 1553 White Knoll High 602 507 429 1538 Goose Creek High 465 507 518 1490 Gaffney High 519 455 496 1470 T L Hanna High 532 483 448 1463 Stratford High 518 477 460 1455 Blythewood High 478 475 481 1434 Northwestern High 490 478 461 1429 Wade Hampton High 501 452 416 1369 Riverside High 481 455 426 1362 Woodmont High 517 431 388 1336 St. James High 483 425 421 1329 Socastee High 449 458 421 1328 Berkeley High 448 457 419 1324 South Florence High 517 427 379 1323 Dutch Fork High 449 415 448 1312 West Florence High 506 400 394 1300 Conway High 506 400 381 1287 Westside High 534 418 333 1285 West Ashley High 527 404 347 1278 Easley High 426 450 396 1272 Lugoff Elgin High 460 420 383 1263 James Island Charter High 437 412 389 1238 R B Stall High 431 437 366 1234 Colleton County High 426 396 397 1219 Ridge View High 439 416 344 1199 Greenwood High 453 375 368 1196 Eastside High 412 384 383 1179
  7. https://www.thestate.com/sports/high-school/prep-football/article227504224.html Had read something about this a month prior. Now its official to begin starting with 2020-22. Essentially instead of using the 135-day head count they are now going to use the 45-day count. And instead of using grades 9-12 the HSL will use grades 9-11. Couple of quick observations. A.) Using 9-11 makes more sense seeing as how those current seniors won't be around anyways. B.) Will be interesting to see if using 45 days versus 135 makes a difference at all. I'm sure some schools have worse attrition rates between the end of Q1 and the end of Q3 than some schools. Not sure where the cut off will be however, at least the article did not indicate this information. Thoughts???
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    Team SC VS Team NC

    Someone with greater memory than I would be able to verify this but didn't the coaches association try this with a Georgia all-star team years back with similar outcomes?
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    5A State Qualifiers

    ACTUALLY if it were up to me we'd eliminate the duals or shorten it down (none of the classifications needs a 32 team bracket) AND then crown a duals champ and a team champ at individual state. Then in true William Tecumseh Sherman spirit I'd burn this state to the ground.
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    5A State Qualifiers

    Some how Ohio crowns a state champ in both duals and at the individual tournament (been crowning a team champ at individual state since the 20s, just started crowning a duals champ a few years ago). Surely SC is not above doing something similar.
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    5A State Qualifiers

    This poses an interesting discussion / debate. Which method of crowning a state wrestling team champ is most appropriate? Duals or Individual State? Below is SOME data to support both sides I think, although many I'm sure will say it's a push either way and it really doesn't matter as more often than not the duals winner is also the team that scores the most team points at individual state. Again, with a few anomalies the winner of the duals is usually the best team at individual state as well or at least they are close behind. The 2017 RB squad and the 2014 Rock Hill team stand out in this regard. 2018 - rock hill (duals), fort d(ind.), rock hill finished 2nd at individuals 2017 - river bluff (duals champ), fort d (ind.), interesting that river bluff was the duals champ and therefore the official state champ but finished 8th at individuals 2016 - Dorman clean sweep both duals and individuals 2015 - rock hill won duals, couldn't find team scores from individuals for this year 2014 - rock hill won duals but summerville won individuals, rock hill finished 8th at individuals 2013 - Lexington had a clean sweep of both 2012 - Hillcrest won duals, finised 5th at individuals, Lexington won individual state 2011 - Hillcrest clean sweep of both 2010 - Fort D clean sweep of both 2009 - Rock Hill won duals state and finished 2nd at individual state while fort d took 1st at individuals 2008 - Summerville clean sweep of both 2007 - Fort D takes duals state, finished 2nd at individuals, Hillcrest wins individual state 2006 - Summerville clean sweep 2005 - Summerville clean sweep 2004 - Summerville clean sweep
  12. According to the article if the proposal they are looking at were used going into 2019-20 here is what 5A would look like next year.. Laurens, Greenwood, Chapin, Irmo and Stall would all drop to 4A. Will be interesting to see how the opening of Catawba Ridge (Fort Mill 4) and the new school on Mount Pleasant (splitting up Wando essentially) impacts realignment after 2019-20. We're on the current plan through 2019-20 so will there be any shake ups 2020-22?? Will Catawba Ridge push Fort Mill and Nation Ford down to 4A for a few years??? Especially if they use grades 9-11 as they are proposing. For fun below are classes 5A, 4A and 3A which the article says would have 43 schools in each class. Wrestling speaking 5A would have 41 schools, 4A would ave 40, 3A would have 36?? 2018-19 45 day count (5A) Wando High 3,953 Dorman High 3,409 Summerville High 3,104 Carolina Forest High 2,506 James F Byrnes High 2,458 Clover High 2,376 Ft Mill High 2,360 Boiling Springs High 2,357 Mauldin High 2,336 Ashley Ridge High 2,304 Sumter High 2,280 Fort Dorchester High 2,267 Nation Ford High 2,194 Hillcrest High 2,181 Spring Valley High 2,159 Cane Bay High 2,122 Lexington High 2,105 River Bluff High 2,047 Rock Hill High 1,994 Spartanburg High 1,986 J L Mann High Academy 1,961 White Knoll High 1,955 Goose Creek High 1,954 Blythewood High 1,907 Stratford High 1,880 Gaffney High 1,877 T L Hanna High 1,871 Northwestern High 1,865 Wade Hampton High 1,791 Riverside High 1,770 Berkeley High 1,724 Woodmont High 1,724 West Florence High 1,712 Dutch Fork High 1,707 West Ashley High 1,701 Socastee High 1,697 St. James High 1,695 South Florence High 1,683 Westside High 1,682 Lugoff Elgin High 1,633 Easley High 1,626 James Island Charter High 1,570 Conway High 1,536 45 day count for 4A R B Stall High 1,520 Eastside High 1,518 Laurens Dist 55 High 1,514 Ridge View High 1,513 York Comprehensive High 1,509 Colleton County High 1,508 Greenwood High 1,505 N Myrtle Beach High 1,491 Myrtle Beach High 1,482 Chapin High 1,474 South Pointe High 1,465 Greenville Sr High Academy 1,463 Westwood High 1,461 North Augusta High 1,449 A. C. Flora High 1,444 South Aiken High 1,435 Richland Northeast High 1,403 May River High 1,355 Airport High 1,348 Midland Valley High 1,345 Aiken High 1,342 Beaufort High 1,333 Pickens High 1,317 Irmo High 1,306 Hilton Head Is. High 1,297 Wilson High 1,238 Lancaster High 1,220 Bluffton High 1,218 Greer High 1,203 Hartsville High 1,196 Travelers Rest High 1,191 Dreher High 1,178 Indian Land High 1,164 Crestwood High 1,140 Walhalla High 1,139 Lower Richland High 1,138 D W Daniel High 1,119 Belton Honea Path High 1,106 Wren High 1,093 Darlington High 1,091 Berea High 1,084 Union County High 1,062 Lakewood High 1,036 45 day count 3A Blue Ridge High 1,024 Gilbert High 1,022 Orngb Wilkinson High 1,022 Camden High 1,003 Hanahan High 999 Seneca High 997 Palmetto High 987 Marlboro County High 979 B C Sr High 964 Georgetown High 960 Chapman High 929 Powdersville High 912 Dillon High School 883 Broome High 878 Clinton High 873 Waccamaw High 868 Swansea High 858 Emerald High 857 Chester Sr High 842 Pendleton High 840 Lake City High 835 Aynor High 832 Loris High 832 Manning High 831 West-Oak High 815 Strom Thurmond High 801 Southside High 785 Carolina Academy (High) 781 Woodruff High 759 Mid Carolina High 752 Battery Creek High 749 Newberry High 729 Fairfield Central High 727 Lake Marion High & Tech Ctr 715 Keenan High 710 Crescent High 702 Green Sea Floyds High 691 Pelion High 680 Marion High 672 Woodland High 665 N Charleston High 659 Academic Magnet High 655 Liberty High 651
  13. Ohio does their reclassification every year and uses grades 9-11 so I can say it's been done before. I can say though that the schools that get hit the hardest when using 9-11 enrollment numbers are urban, less affluent schools who see large 9th grade classes but smaller than average 11th and 12th grade classes. Essentially making the school "large" but only because of the 9th grade (which is always the biggest class at any school I get that). What are the pro's and con's of using 45 day counts versus 135 day counts? Which schools benefit the most? Do any schools really grow during the school year? I'm sure some schools are more transient than others when it comes to enrollment but if each school sees enrollment decreases by say 1-2% during the school year then does it really matter when you do the count? Why not compromise and use the end of 1st semester (90 day count) numbers? In my completely unbiased opinion they need to do what Ohio does and allow each sport to determine their own classifications. In Ohio football has 7 divisions, wrestling has 3, basketball has 4, ice hockey has 1, etc....
  14. Ohio has only used the dual format recently. The OHSAA allows lower division schools to declare themselves into a higher division playoff which Graham has done. During the traditional tournament they go right back down to their appropriate division.
  15. Good post. Probably the best post of the year if not years on this board.
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