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  1. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    South Carolina Wrestling Mt. Rushmore

    A little surprised no one has mentioned any of the DII champions South Carolina has produced. Our state has had several win a DII championship starting with Careef Robertson I believe. Really wish the NCAA had not ended their policy of letting DII and DIII champs compete at the DI tournament. Would have liked to have seen how Robertson, Blanton, and the kid from Lake City - whose name escapes me at the moment - would have fared.
  2. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    South Carolina Wrestling Mt. Rushmore

    A good choice. As I originally stated, everyone will have personal preferences - mine being Keith Harris. I could definitely see Walker making it, but not over Dudley or Wirnsberger who accomplished things in college that Clay did not. Tell me Guest Rebel Murderer, who would be your other three picks along with Walker? What about coaches?
  3. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    South Carolina Wrestling Mt. Rushmore

    Yes, I thought about him too. Being an Olympian obviously puts you in contention. Who would you drop from the two Rushmore suggestions to make room for him and why?
  4. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    South Carolina Wrestling Mt. Rushmore

    Depends on who is on NC's Mt. Rushmore.....
  5. Recently Flowrestling did a Mt. Rushmore of American wrestling. On a national wrestling message board some posters did a Mt. Rushmore for various states. I thought on this day of independence we might do the same. Which SC greats would be the four faces on a South Carolina Wrestling Mt. Rushmore and why? I think you could do two separate monuments - one for coaches and one for athletes. I think the coaching SC Mt. Rushmore would be pretty straight forward, but the athlete recognition would be pretty tough depending on criteria and personal preference. My Coaching Mt. Rushmore: Jim Barnes - his many many state titles at two different schools says it all. BD LaPrad - pioneer in this state winning titles at three different schools and I believe currently holds the dual meet all-time wins record. Steve LaPrad - along with the first two coaches a pioneer in this state. Numerous titles at Summerville and paved the way for his protege to continue their success. Jack Kosmicki - Ed Coles got the ball rolling at Eastside, but Kos got it rolling over everyone; that said, I could see replacing Kos with Maholtz as we all know he is the brains in that operation. Athletes - quite a few to choose from, but I will go with: Carl van Sewell - first 4xchamp. I never saw him wrestle and know the competition in his day wasn't as deep, but he did win 4 when there was only 1 classification. Keith Harris - 3xer who terrorized his weight classes during the late 80's... and my personal golem. Dan Wirnsberger - 3x SC champ, 1x Kansas champ who would go on to become a 3x D1 All-American and finalist Tim Dudley - 3x SC champ, Super 32 champ, 2x NHSCA champ (4x placer), and Fargo All-American who was a 3x D1 All-American and finalist.
  6. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    Team SC VS Team NC

    But how would they be ready to go? Remember there is a closed season leading up to the start of the season, and upper weights playing football would not be able to participate. Has to be after season - if anything two weeks after the state tournament. But then you will run into weight issues and conditioning.
  7. https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6394841-all-time-pittsburgh-wrestling-classic-results
  8. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    Team SC VS Team NC

    JTW is correct, I don't think any of us are complaining about the kids having fun - that is a big part of the weekend - but when battling an all-star team from another state the mentality has got to be different or why even add that event? Accomplished wrestlers, for the most part, have pride - they should wrestle to win. I think several of us have stated that the best team representing SC should be put on the mat. If one of our guys does not have the right attitude someone else should be put in his place. Again, this hearkens back to the original argument for wrestle-offs to decide the team. I do believe the event has dualed both NC and Georgia in the past with a similar outcome. I remember questioning the lineup then as well. Choosing participants well in advance for an event like Dapper Dan is fine as those wrestlers are extremely serious and are serious about participation. Obviously this event does not hold as much "cache" so it would be better to determine participants that weekend based on wrestle-offs, coach's opinion, etc. Also the point that I and others have made is about the lack of SC kids on the recruiting radar. That is why a good showing against an out-of-state all-star team is important - it MIGHT just pique the interest of a college coach if one of our kids wrestled well against a kid who has signed/being recruited. I believe this point has also been mentioned several times. While some kids, the older Emery for example, are not interested in wrestling in college, the vast majority of kids I have talked to over the years have college wrestling aspirations - even those who do not understand the rigors of collegiate wrestling and their own limitations. Those opportunities are very limited; especially if you are from SC. These guys have got to make the best of every opportunity. Regardless of whether you want to wrestle in college, if given the chance to represent your state against another you need to wrestle to win. A poor showing does not just reflect on you, it reflects on our state. Any one familiar with wrestling at the national level realizes SC high school wrestling is not respected. The showing at the all-star dual just solidifies that belief.
  9. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    Team SC VS Team NC

    Don't forget Dudley. NHSCA champ as junior and senior and placer as sophomore and freshman. Fargo All-American and Super 32 belt winner. The effort he put into the sport during spring and summer got him a DI scholarship where he became a 3x All-American and NCAA finalist. I don't ever remember him laughing about getting beat, but I do remember him having a lot of fun.
  10. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    Team SC VS Team NC

    Let me clarify my meaning: I doubt many of our SC kids are getting recruited by any of the NC colleges, BUT if a kid thrashed an NC stud that is being recruited MAYBE that draws the attention of that coach and MAYBE that coach will pay closer attention to that SC kid at NHSCA or Fargo. Doubtful but possible. Also if you aren't giving a 100% when you step on the mat in a competition of any kind then obviously the sport is not getting across the life lessons that wrestling is supposed to teach. I think you are making excuses for kids who did not have the proper attitude for the event. But if your argument holds true, Guest SeniorMom, then it is a valid argument for doing away with North/South all together and saving the coaches association a ton of money. And even though it no longer serves this purpose, and never really did, one of the original intentions of this all-star event all those many years ago at Brookland-Cayce was to pique interest in college coaches to give our state's best an opportunity to continue their wrestling careers.
  11. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    Team SC VS Team NC

    No disrespect, but wrong mentality. Sounds like an every-kid-gets-a-trophy mentality which doesn't fit with our sport. I'm glad the kids have fun at North/South, but they should still have some pride and competitiveness when wrestling each other, and that kind of attitude is mandatory when wrestling a true all-star match. These guys are seniors, not freshman. I would think that some of them would like to continue wrestling next season if possible. You don't get that opportunity with a roll-to-your-back-laughing attitude. While I doubt there were college coaches in attendance, if there were they surely lost interest in the kids. And with many college programs located in NC, a win against one of their kids might filter back north of the border.
  12. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    College Recruiting

    I enjoy reading insults about Moxie.... and Maholtz for that matter. Doesn't matter to me if he responds or not; although, a rebuttal might prove amusing.
  13. CarolinaHawkeyeFan

    Team SC VS Team NC

    No one better get on here saying that changes don't need to be made to how kids are selected to represent SC against other states. What I just heard is that NC won 60 something to nine. NINE! SC scored nine points!!!! That's freaking embarrassing. I heard SC kids were rolling to their backs and LAUGHING about it. The whole North/South event has become a joke and now we are letting our state become a laughingstock. And people wonder why DI coaches don't come here to recruit.
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